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Someone please help, confused ;-(
Hi everyone
I don't know what to do. I'm usually such a happy positive person but feel really down at the moment.
I've been with my boyfriend for a year and love him very much
When we first met his barriers were well and truly up, he'd been very badly hurt by previous girlfriends but gradually he fell in love with me and and it was amazing, I was so happy.
Then we had a silly misunderstanding 6 months ago and the defences went back up. He says he hasn't felt the same about me since. Although he does occasionally tell me he loves me.
This all came to a head at the weekend. He works away alot, sometimes we don't see each other for weeks and he had just got back last weekend. It usually takes him a couple of days to readjust to being back home with friends and family.
We got a bit drunk and he said he doesn't think he will ever be head over heels in love with me, his hearts just not in it. He also thinks I only want to be with him because i don't want to be on my own, which isn't true. He says he loves me in his own way, and caresvery much about me and my children, he feels very close to us all.
He isn't jealous or insecure, infact he says he hopes when he goes away for 6 months later this year that I meet someone else.
But his friends all think I'm good for him and tell me, that he has told him how happy he is and that he's got the relationship and family he's always wanted, they say it's obvious he's crazy about me.
I don't know what to think, whether it was just the drink and tiredness talking.
How can two people feel so differently? I love him so much, he's perfect for me yet he is having doubts. I don't think he knows himself what he wants to do. I have asked him a couple of times does he want to finish things and he's said no. He's still very affectionate and caring towards me but has admitted he's not 'lovey dovey' because he's been like that with other girlfriends and he's just ended up getting hurt.
I don't know whether to wait for a more settled period (He's away again but is soon going to be home for a whole month) and see what happens or to cut my losses and call it quits. He's always said whatever happens we will be close friends but I don't think I could cope with just a friendship.
Please advise me I'm so unhappy!
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Someone please help, confused ;-(
Hi everyone
I don't know what to do. I'm usually such a happy positive person but feel really down at the moment.
I've been with my boyfriend for a year and love him very much
When we first met his barriers were well and truly up, he'd been very badly hurt by previous girlfriends but gradually he fell in love with me and and it was amazing, I was so happy.
Then we had a silly misunderstanding 6 months ago and the defences went back up. He says he hasn't felt the same about me since. Although he does occasionally tell me he loves me.
This all came to a head at the weekend. He works away alot, sometimes we don't see each other for weeks and he had just got back last weekend. It usually takes him a couple of days to readjust to being back home with friends and family.
We got a bit drunk and he said he doesn't think he will ever be head over heels in love with me, his hearts just not in it. He also thinks I only want to be with him because i don't want to be on my own, which isn't true. He says he loves me in his own way, and caresvery much about me and my children, he feels very close to us all.
He isn't jealous or insecure, infact he says he hopes when he goes away for 6 months later this year that I meet someone else.
But his friends all think I'm good for him and tell me, that he has told him how happy he is and that he's got the relationship and family he's always wanted, they say it's obvious he's crazy about me.
I don't know what to think, whether it was just the drink and tiredness talking.
How can two people feel so differently? I love him so much, he's perfect for me yet he is having doubts. I don't think he knows himself what he wants to do. I have asked him a couple of times does he want to finish things and he's said no. He's still very affectionate and caring towards me but has admitted he's not 'lovey dovey' because he's been like that with other girlfriends and he's just ended up getting hurt.
I don't know whether to wait for a more settled period (He's away again but is soon going to be home for a whole month) and see what happens or to cut my losses and call it quits. He's always said whatever happens we will be close friends but I don't think I could cope with just a friendship.
Please advise me I'm so unhappy!
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Hi Alicol,
It sounds to me as if he's written himself off as if he knows he's been damaged and doesn't believe it's possible now for him to have a relationship but.... he doesn't seem to want to end things as he wants it to happen while he's away. That is interesting. You have to wonder why he can't end the relationship, probably it's because he does still love you but is torn between his feelings, what he wants and what he expects to get.
I don't think he sees himself as a good prospect for someone he cares for. He really should let you decide for yourself.
What I would advise is not talking about everything, not dredging everything up and to behave and act as his girlfriend. Don't make any big issues about things but to slot yourself into the position of his loved and loving girlfriend. I don't think he will object seeing as he has said he loves you and hasn't been able to end things.
So try to disregard the negative things he has said or may say, and continue to be his girlfriend.
Don't have or instigate heavy conversations even though you may want to know where you stand. We women do like to talk things out to the nth degree whereas men will just opt for a simple life. If he's happy with you by his side and in his life then assume the position. No need to analyse everything or seek reassurance.
Leave all that alone because if you ask him to talk you won't get to hear what you're after. So let it go and be his girlfriend and allow time to heal and to show him that being with someone can work and you are different. You can't rush some things and talking or explaining that you're different won't make any difference. You just have to live each day as his girlfriend and time will take care of everything else.
Owly x
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Thank you for your reply, it all makes perfect sense. We do have a lovely relationship day to day and I'm naturally a laid back person, for personal reasons I never worry about the future and just try to enjoy each day. He worries it's not enough for me, to just 'tick along' with someone who can't give me what I want (his words) but all I want to to be happy, for us both to enjoy the times we have and to be happy together.
He does believe I will do to him exactly what the other girls did and you're right, reasurring him I won't falls on deaf ears. I guess just time will tell.
It's always him that brings up the conversation, as I said he instigated it saturday night when we were drunk and were alone for a few minutes at a friends party (not great timing) and he got quite tearful. When people walked back in the room he made excuses and went out to the bathroom, my heart broke for him he looked so upset!
It's reasurring to know I'm doing the right thing by sticking with him, just carrying o as normal and letting him figure things out in his own time. If he decides he doesn't want to be with me now, or a month or 6 months down the line it won't hurt any more or less so I have nothing to lose lol!
Thanks again x
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Hi,
What you could say if he brings the subject up is that you'd like to know if you resemble his past partners, if you have the same personality because if you are different especially if you are totally different then what makes him believe that you would treat him the same as his previous partner or partners.
I mean when you actually think about it you and his ex were brought up by different people, possibly had different friends, definitely different brothers and sisters, different jobs maybe, like different things in food movies etc, have different values, been to different places, met different people etc so there is quite a lot about you that is different.
You could say "You're entitled to feel the way you do, it's understandable that you do, you know my thoughts on it and besides if I agreed with yoiu then we'd both be wrong so lets get on with (whatever you'd been doing) and to give time a chance to prove how different things can be". ![]()
Lighten the mood, don't get sucked into anything heavy.
Owly x
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I'm completely different to his ex's, he's told me himself. They were all fiesty, strong women who argued back and although I'm confident and independant, I'm chilled out, don't like confrontation, I don't argue and don't get stressed by stuff, usually lol.
He thinks I just latched on to him a year ago because according to him he was the latest in a line of guys who I'd latched onto because they paid me some attention. In reality when I first met him I had no thoughts about taking anything further as I had just resolved a lot of things in my own head and just wasn't looking for a boyfriend, or sex or anything. Then we bumped into each other in town a week later, went for a coffee, had an amazing hour chatting then arranged a night out just as mates and that's where I realised there was a spark, it really did hit me like a bolt of lightening as it was the last thing on my mind.
He knows that after I separated from my husband I had a long distance relationship with one of his friends which I'm not proud of but that just fizzled out about 3 months before I met my boyfriend. Between the long distance one and him, there was a guy I slept with once and a guy I kissed (both after my divorce came through).
I made a lot of mistakes between separating and divorcing a year later and in my boyfriends mind, I'll always be the same, unable to be single and always seeking out attention of any man who'll look my way. He doesn't believe that I was just a bit lost and am a different person now.
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Hi Ali,
A lot of women go a bit off the rails after a divorce. It's not something that they should be judged for. It seems to be some kind of testing of freedom, like a pendulum that's been held over one side being released it swings too far the other way until it settles and finds where it's meant to be.
I think it's possibly to do with finding the right level of self esteem because this can be damaged after a marriage break up or a bad ending to a marriage or a bad marriage. With low self esteem there is an acceptance of any male who shows an interest and when the self esteem has been increased, standards rise.
This is why everyone tells people that they need to get over a break up before embarking on their next relationship because they need time to heal. They get told that you need to love yourself first before you can love someone else.
Your guy's biggest problem is himself. I find it quite insulting that he would say you 'latched onto him'. It doesn't say much for his respect of you. Still time would show him that there was more to the relationship than he seems to believe. I wouldn't mention anything and just go along as his girlfriend for as long as you are happy with him.
If you're happy with him in ten years time his arguments will have grown a bit pathetic. ![]()
Owly x
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Hi Ali,
I knew something was bugging me and last night after I'd gone to bed it hit me. Your bf is going around accepting the fact that his past relationships caused him great pain so much so that they are possibly affecting his relationship with you and yet he's judged you for how the ending of a past relationship (your marriage) made you feel, react and behave.
The only connection that I can see is that because he doesn't see how he can change he doesn't think you can either.
In which case he must still believe that you are continuing to be affected by your divorce.
It would appear he is in denial that healing from pain is possible. His opinion of his own ability would therefore seem to be limited by his belief.
If he continues to judge the innocent for 'crimes' committed by others then he is going to go round in circles. When you think about it, if in real life innocent people were made to pay a price for something committed by others quite a few of the innocent would start to think they may as well commit the crime if they are already paying for it. So in the controller's eyes it justifies making them pay because to his way of thinking 'it proves that everyone is the same and always will be' and that they were right all along.
In another way putting this kind of pressure on someone in condeming them ahead of any event by speaking of expected outcomes is a way of trying to control that it won't happen because A. it gets the person to constantly reassure them and B. makes them endeavour to prove their loyalty by staying with the partner longer than they may have done.
Owly x
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The only connection that I can see is that because he doesn't see how he can change he doesn't think you can either.
In which case he must still believe that you are continuing to be affected by your divorce.
It would appear he is in denial that healing from pain is possible. His opinion of his own ability would therefore seem to be limited by his belief
You're exactly right. He's very honest, he knows he's still affected by past relationships. His reasoning behind telling me I should meet someone else whilst he's away is a defence mechanism, if he puts a defence up and says 'I don't care' it's his way of saving face.
This is why he says his heart's not in it, because he makes a concsious effort not care so as not to get hurt. yes he still believes because I had a mad few months after ending a 10-year faithful relationship, that is how I am apparently and cannot be any different. Despite being loyal and faithful for 10 years until separation.
I don't know, his words and his actions contradict each other. He acts like the perfect boyfriend and I know it's genuine. I will follow your advice and just continue to be the laid back loving girlfriend and hope that time heals. It's been an odd few months anyway, he's been away alot, working extremely long hours in difficult conditions and has been poorly too so he's not been 100%. The time we've had together recently has been odd days here and there and always surrounded by others, my girls or family and friends. Hopefully when he has a few weeks off coming up soon, we can just slow down and be together doing normal things :-)
Thank you so much for all your advice xxx
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Hi Ali,
I think you could be the one to show him that his expectations and judgements are flawed. It does put a lot on you though having to prove yourself one way or another but hopefully it won't feel too bad if you're enjoying spending time with him and can still continue to consider yourself as his girlfriend.
Take what he says with a pinch of salt unless he ever says he doesn't love you as in my experience this is hard to say if someone does so those words make a difference to the outcome but if he's saying he loves you then no matter what else he says you can afford to pretty much down play it and just get on with your life wth him.
Good luck.
Owly x




